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that would let taxes rise on the wealthiest households while protecting the vast majority of americans from tax hikes set to hit in january. welcome to the saturday edition of "and the washington journal." for the first 45 minutes of the program we are going to be talking about senate negotiating a fiscal clifts deal, what has been going on on that half of the capital. see what they are talking about and how things are going. we want to get your input and your part of the conversation. you can reach out to us on twitter. facebook, facebook.com/cspan. and you can send us an e-mail. this is more from the article, the lead story in "the washington post." they ride, the development marked a breakthrough after weeks of paralysis. joining us by phone is one of the authors of that article, and, laurie, welcome to the program. tell us, what kind of a deal did the president offered? what is new in the negotiations among the senators and between the senators and the white house? caller: there does not appear to be anything new. the policies they are talking about are the senate has been on the table
with president obama and signals conservative republicans are inwilling to stomach any rise in tax rates even on those making more than $1 million which was mr. boehner's plan. so walk us through what happened on friday. how did we get there? and it seems like the speaker of the house didn't see this coming, and a lot of folks in washington want to know why not? guest: we begin the week with the speaker of the house saying negotiations between he and president obama had stalled. they were stuck on their -- i guess i would say maybe not their final offers but current offers. boehner said he would raise taxes on those making a million a year or more and get all told $1 trillion in tax increases which he wanted to be matched with $1 trillion in spending cuts and the rate increases on those making $1 million or more and remove loopholes and deductions to get the rest in revenue and then you had your spending cuts. the president, sort of depends on how you do your math and counting, but the president -- by scoreible math the president would have been at $1.3 trillion in tax increases and $900 bil
that immediately. senate democrats saying we passed a bill that raises tax rates on incomes over $250,000, we ran on this and this is what we are offering. house republicans were saying, no, we want to negotiate something, figure it out and send it to us. someone is going to have to move. who? the president met with senate majority leader harry reid before going to hawaii and his offer was to extend the tax cuts for incomes under $250,000, extend unemployment insurance benefits, and the lady across the board automatic cuts that are supposed to start january 1. that seems to be a non starter with republicans. it's hard to see where we go from here. host: have they been talking over the christmas break at all? also, one has been the role of senator mitch mcconnell? guest: the line that comes from the speakers office all the time is the line of communication remain open. i don't know how much talking they did as the president was in hawaii spending time with his family and the speaker was back home in ohio, i believe. i don't know that for sure. everyone was doing their family time and not really wo
, tip o'neill, the democrat made a deal for the huge change in our tax structure. there seems no possibility of a deal like that being made now. >> well, the republicans clearly feel that they've been disadvantaged by president obama and they actually, i don't think, trust him or the democrats anymore because of the experience they went through with the affordable care act. obama care, they've got nothing out of it so they feel they will be hung out to dry if they do a deal. >> you know, there are so many pots and plans clattering around the chamber and what bothers me he is the lopsidedness of the debate. how about the g.o.p. for decades never said we are the ones delivering the middle class tax cuts. these are middle class tax rates that were enacted undergeorge w. bush. we own these for the middle class, not the democrats. why isn't the g.o.p. stepping up for that. >> i guess because they have no historical memory, a democrat hasn't done this since jfk. back in the early 1960's. and he got a huge amount of protest. >> clinton lowered the capital gains tax and because of tha
one of the funny things that is going on with the tax rate situation is that everyone is talking about this as a new revenue. president obama says his plan would produce x dollars more than boehner's plan. both of them are talking about extending tax cuts for 98% of the people. but the main loss of revenue to the government according to a current law is. that is why the caller said we need to go over the cliff. i'm surprised that many callers were willing to go over the cliff. she mentioned that would be a chance for a recess, i think that is part of what is going on with people who believe they want to go from the republican standpoint, if you go over the cliff and the tax rates go back up, you instantly thought and the tax base. it also means more taxpayers are paying. instead of having 50% of taxpayers having no liability because their income is too low and because of deductions, you have a higher percentage that are pain and a broader base. you have more people to start sweating out more money from. once you do these spending cuts, then you decide from the standpoint of, we h
-or-down vote, one that protects the middle class from an income tax hike, extends the vital lifeline of unemployment insurance to 2 million americans looking for a job, and lays the groundwork for future cooperation on more economic growth and deficit reduction. >> reporter: house speaker john boehner was at the white house summit. so far, he's not made a statement about the measures discussed. we're hearing the president does did not float a new deal but reiterated his calls to extend tax cuts for people making less than $250,000 he also wants to extend unemployment benefits for 2 million people and delay $110 billion in sequester cuts and that is a story we'll follow all weekend long. back to you in the studio. >> and thank you very much. >>> essentially, we remain in a stalemate tonight and congress returned yesterday to the senate, the house will be back on monday and they have three days to work it out. >>> and turning our attention to the other big story to the day. snow coming to the d.c. area and should start to see the white stuff coming overnight. gary mcgrady is joining us
are working with the white house. plus, what it all means for your paycheck as higher payroll taxes are only days away unless congress acts. one step forward, two steps back. president obama and republican lawmakers have been dancing that waltz for six weeks now, but the music stops when the countdown clock at the bottom of your screen runs out. so where do fiscal cliff talks stand at this critical hour? nbc's kristen welker is on the north lawn and luke russert are both following developments this saturday afternoon. kristen, i'll start with you. any indication at this particular point as to what's happening behind closed doors this afternoon? >> reporter: well, i think most of the action is going on in the hill where staffers with majority leader reid and minority leader mcconnell are trying to conjure up some last-minute deal and this plan would not be the grand bargain that john boehner started initially working on. that plan would have dealt with tax reform and deficit reduction and this will be a much more scaled back version that will deal with the issue of taxes and that is still the
for compromise. he has an urgent plea to extend the tax cuts in the next ten days. he's basically calling for a stopgap bill that will avoid tax hikes on 98% of americans. he's willing to waiten o the rest. >>> meanwhile, stocks had a fiscal cliff selloff. but even a deal in january for the cliff is going to be all right if you ask me. and today's economic numbers pretty darn good. and the gun control debate heats up again today after a controversial nra news conference in washington. the "kudlow report" begins right now. >>> all right. let's first look at the market reaction to this fiscal cliff stuff. jackie joins us with the details. good evening, jackie. >> good evening to you, larry. while markets finished lower on the day, they were higher on the week. the dow up about .5%, the nasdaq higher by 1.7%, and the s&p 500 up by roughly 1.2% over the last five days. meantime in terms of sector performance, the financials, they had a rough day. the plan "b" proposal for the fiscal cliff. up more than 3% for the week. also technology and materials they finished lower on the day, as well, but
a 20% of gdp to 25% gdp and rather than cut spending raise taxes as necessary to support that spending and i would say that is in fact essentially the french model. and the question is whether it can support enough growth in the economy. >> paul: taxes are going up, we know that, spending, going up for sure even before the health care law kicks in. so, we are moving in that direction, particularly in the entitlement state. not reforming it, but actually expanding it. >> aen what happened this year was the supreme court helping this along, you have the justices essentially rewrite legislation changing the plain text that congress passed in order to declare obamacare constitutional, which is a little scary, that that highest justices in the land would take that sort of activist role and you mentioned france, dan, that's scary. the back drop of this whole presidential year is europe. we know where the path leads. and the turmoil and welfare states and how unsustainability and the high unemployment that comes with them and that was the back drop of our presidential campaign. >> paul: okay,
the white house would want to see is the senate take up some sort of measure to avert the tax hikes that will hit people earning $250,000 or less. that's what they would want. that of course, would require some buy-in from senate republicans and ideally, as the white house would say that would then pass the house. now, that's lot of sort of wishful thinking, you might say, especially considering some of the pessimism we are hearing from democrats and republicans about whether the u.s. is going to go over the fiscal cliff. some folks think that perhaps senator mcconnell would not negotiate something with senate democrats if he wasn't sure that it was going to pass the house, that it would get by at least some of the republicans who would need to get by to pass. but i think the white house is hoping that he will kind of buck house republicans and agree to work something out so that something can pass the senate. but it's very much up in the air, miguel, and not certain that we are not going over the fiscal cliff at this point. >> sounds like a very dangerous game, a very complicated g
, there are well down the light. they won the taxes now. by the time the cuts come in, this ought to be turned around and it was said, we do not need the cuts now that if it has turned around. host: lots of comments coming in of this but so far. one caller rights -- sarasota, florida on the line now. good morning, jill. caller: did morning. i have only one very short thing to say. listen, everyone out there. no matter what party believe in, they're used to be a wonderful country in africa called rhodesia. we are talking about african problems, but it was a bread basket country. produce things. now it is called zimbabwe. inflation is over 1000%. that is all i am going to say to the people watching and listening to this program because we are heading in the same direction. thank you and have a wonderful new year. host: a tear from bob now in the democrat light. caller: thank you for letting me have a chance to speak. i am more optimistic -- i a more pessimistic than optimistic. i just do not think they will ever get together like they should. my one comment is when they start speaking about the
that are beneficiary of another insurance program. that loan is a hidden tax that people don't focus on unless it's pointed out to them. it raises the cost to everyone else. that fact never gets talked about. and it should. >> the largest government health care program medicare is frequently reported to have fraud levels of high sometimes $60 billion a year. i think that's a number i heard. >> i heard it. >> so you can imagine the frustration an the part of the public about that kind of . >> absolutely. >> that kind of fraud and abuse. what has this city never been able to get the arms around the level of fraud and abuse. what does it say for the expansion of government-one programs? >> well, the fact is that it's expensive to weed out the waste fraud and abuse. it takes an awful lot of government time and money put in to eliminating it. i think it's worth doing it. i don't think we do it nearly enough because if you stop it, and slow it down, then gradually you can retract the government requirement to weed it out. you get rid of it you don't have to pay as much to keep it out as you do to get o
don't know if the president plans to return at the to hawaii if the tax hikes are avoided well in advance of the of the new year. he's there to talk to himself. john boehner will come back at any time. his office told us it would be sometime after christmas. so he could be back as soon as today. the upper chamber in commerce is coming back tomorrow to pick up where they left off on the important domestic surveillance bisa. they will meet for a vote on the $50.6 billion bill for hurricane sandy relief. they will be back in the same zip code as far as we know there are no specific time or places on the books for an inperson meaning between the two. something else that remains to be seen is everybody will return to the table with a cooler head which the president shawas hopi for before he went on his family vacation. hoe over do you. >> the fiscal cliff we have been telling you so much about could be devastating for thousands of american businesses and their workers. their new concerns this morning about profits for those companies. lauren simonetti from the fox business network j
these prevent it, in control of whether or not your taxes go up come new year's day. harry reid, minority leader mitch mcconnell, house speaker john boehner and house democratic leader nancy pelosi met at the white house yesterday afternoon with the president and vice president. here's where things stand right now. the senate leaders are meeting aiming to avoid tax hikes. and they may vote on a deal sunday or perhaps on monday. jessica yellin is our chief white house correspondent. lisa day jar dayne is on capitol hill. the president used his bully pulpit to reinforce the idea that senators need to get busy. so let's listen. >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously, their patience is already thin. this is deja vu all over again. america wonders why it is that in this town for some reason, you can't get stuff done in an organized timetable, why everything always has to wait till the last minute. we're now at the last minute. and the american people are not going to have any patience for a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. not right now. >> so jessica, you were
taxes on families and small businesses. it was a mandate to work together to begin solving the massive debt that threatens our country's future. >> reporter: the house and the senate will both be back in session tomorrow and the president has said he expects them to quickly vote to pass legislation to avoid the fiscal cliff, if, he and the speaker are able to make a deal before it's too late. gregg: we'll be holding our breath. peter doocy, thanks. >> reporter: yeah. patti ann: the commander-in-chief also spent part of his holiday thanking the troops on a visit to a hawaiian military base. the president and first lady paying tribute to those here and abroad who risk their lives keeping us safe. he took time to honor their families as well. >> so many of you make sacrifices day in, day out on behalf of our freedom, on behalf of our security, and not only do those in uniform make sacrifices but i think everybody here understands the sacrifices that families make each and every day as well. and michelle --. patti ann: the president also made a series of holiday phone calls monday night th
is in the aired hading back to washington. is it too late. we are breaking doup your tax reality. >> brian: and holiday travelers are stuck on the tarmac x. one pilot was frustrated . wait until you hear what he did over com. "fox and friends" begins right now. ♪ ♪ "fox and friends". >> brian: kelley wright. i am clayton morris . this is julia morris. >> happy merry christmas. you guys have a nice christmas. >> family was here and we had a great time. >> frolic in the -- >> clayton: beautiful snow. >> you can't beat christmas in new york 73 unless you are manger square in bethlehem. >> clayton: we'll tell you about people stuck on the tarmac. five or six hours. if you were trapped or stuck in texas let us know. >> we have a folks news - fox news alert. former president bush's condition has worsened. he is 88 years old and he was formerally the president . he was hospitalized for a cough . and family spokesman admits things are not going well but doctors remain cautiously optmistic. >> he's in critical condition and in a bad way. the doctors believe there is a path for him to recover fr
hook tragedy. >>> a massive tax hike and spending cuts -- republicans and democrats continue to point fingers in opposite directions, hinting that talks could go into the new year. >> are we going over the cliff? >> i believe we are, and i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. he senses a victory at the bottom of the cliff. >> we only have nine days left here. when are we going to get serious about actual solutions? i would welcome john to tell me. he says he wants a solution. give us one, john. >> meanwhile, president obama is spending christmas in hawaii where he and the first lady attended the holiday memorial service for the late u.s. senator from daniel inouye. >> white house correspondent kristen welker. kristen, obviously they always say the white house travels with the president wherever he is. that's where the white house is. the president, though, is enjoying vacation, but still continuing to keep tabs on the fiscal cliff negotiations, correct? >> he is. white house officials describe this as a working vacation. i think there have been may
and find some kind of agreement on taxes and spending. tonight the president's position as he sits down exclusively with nbc news. >>> here we go again. another big winter storm blankets the northeast. tonight the latest on where it's headed and how it's affecting holiday travel. >>> high profits from marijuana, at least that's what some entrepreneurs are hoping for as they see big potential in states where pot is legal. >>> and can't stay away. what happened when the parents of one college student just couldn't let go? she gave them a lesson they never expected. >> good evening. the deadline looms less than three days away now and still no sign that congressional leaders have come up with a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. the president again today called on lawmakers to act before taxes automatically go up for every american and spending cuts kick in. but republicans aren't happy with the proposal the white house is offering. so on a saturday night, washington is still at a stalemate and the public is pretty clearly growing frustrated. david gregory sat down exclusively with
three days to go before the fiscal cliff when tax heights and spending cuts kick in. president obama and congressional leaders are meeting at the white house right now trying to figure out a way to avoid it. negotiation have been under way for about an hour. steve handelsman joins us. so far no deal? >> i'm checking. so far the meeting continues, which could be a bad sign, can it? sources here on the hill say in today's meeting president obama planned to be kind of tough, figuring that he has gotten the advantage back to the extent anybody has the advantage this close to the cliff and that he'll push hi original demand, the tack rates rise on income over a quarter million dollars. it's a positive sign, the first meeting since mid-november of the four congressional leaders, democrats and republicans at the white house. called by president obama, house speaker jane boehner, the key figure. >> the fact that he's come back and the four of them are at the table means to me we could come up with some kind of agreement. >> reporter: both sides want a deal to avoid tax hikes that could cost
the president. this is personal. this has nothing to do with raising taxes. this is a personal attack and i think it's a shame. we look like a third world country. we don't look like the united states. host: let's get a republican voice. our next caller is calling from west bloomfield, michigan, on the republican line. good morning. caller: i would like to get your thoughts on a balanced approach and have unbiased taxation by using a flat tax. that way you can calculate the amount of taxes we need for the deficit over 10 years. another point is to control the spending on entitlements by not giving millionaires social security benefits, thereby satisfying president obama's approach. instead of doing it through taxation, he can do it through the entitlements. guest: those are both ideas that have been raised, especially the social security and medicare benefits for the wealthy and potentially might not need them to live off of. one tricky part of that is wealthier americans have been paying these taxes for decades into social security and medicare if and a lot of folks have a problem with the
stocking. higher taxes, lawmakers and president obama have left washington for christmas with no deal on tax hikes and spending cuts set to go in effect after the first of the year. brianna keilar is live in hawaii where the president is spending the christmas holiday. brianna, the president maybe a little too optimistic that a deal can be reached? aloha, by the way. >> he did say last night that he is a hopeless optimist that something can get done, but what we know, it's not going to be that big package, obviously of deficit reduction as well as dealing with these tax hikes that are set to kick in. that's not what's going to be happening, instead, he's pressing for something smaller just to a deal with stopping those tax hikes from kicking in for americans making $250,000 per year or less. and also trying to make sure that unemployment benefits are extended. listen to what president obama said last night and also listen to what some of the house republican resistance from speaker boehner to his sort of short-term plan here. >> in the next few days, i've asked leaders of congress to
-- there are many -- if we do go over the cliff that would reset all of the tax issues suchissues. what we do know, the clock is ticking and the waiting game continues, with the house not even scheduled to be in session until sunday afternoon. live of the capitol, steve chenevey wjla. >> will monitor all the negotiations surrounding the fiscal cliff. coming up at 5:30, a closer look at how the country got in this financial situation in the first place. >> we're learning more tonight about a robber turned police pursuit that ended with a vehicle crashed into a metro bus. happen at the intersection of wheeler and southern avenues in southeast washington. >> that accident happening here at this intersection of wheeler road and southern ave. it is a very busy intersection. it happened very early this morning. authorities say this all began much, much earlier. >> this is the scene at southern avenue and wheeler road in southeast d.c. after police say this stolen car slammed into a metro bus. >> at what point will they realize that you need to think about what you do before you do it? in the end you can
brink and taxes going up for all americans. so far, there's been no call for the house to get back to the hill. senators return to the capitol tomorrow. the question remains krks the president join congress and surf the rough political waters to get a deal in time? >> i think he's doing all he can and calving hell at the same time and there's give, give. i think it's very, very difficult, particularly after boehner's plan "b" failed. >> the key issue i think and the american people are catching on is that the problem that we have is we have a right wing political figure in the house way, way, way out of touch of what the american people are thinking. >>> there's early economic sinls that the uncertainty over the cliff may have clayed the role of scrooge this holiday season. early holiday numbers point to the worst year to year growth since 2008. >>> i think the president is steward of this economy needs to try to reach the big compromise with speaker boehner and the two men came very close. >> all right. let's check in and say good morning to nbc news correspondent mike vi cara now
is -- but shouldn't crease -- shouldn't greece all its own tax collection? >> let me start with the last question before i start giving out financial advisor. [laughter] greece certainly should focus on dealing -- not so much with tax collection, but what i call tax immunity. they have a very cozy system of tax immunity. the tragedy is when you have an economy like greece's going to a tailspin and you have a massive immunization of national income, and the central bank is effectively kaput, you can really improve your tax collection methods because there is no income tax. people just do not make money any more. even the rich do not make money. other than the money they have already accumulated through geneva or frankfurt. they are not making money. how can you improve your tax mechanism when there's no income to tax? that is the second question. the first question -- i am not worried about inflation at all. in this country, there is this fixation with quantitative easing. bernanke's attempt to stabilize the american economy. it is a policy that i have encountered ever since i came to this countr
former republican senator chuck hagel makee it to the pentntagon? >> the house did not take up the tax measure today because it t did not have suffificient support from our mberto pass. house speaker john boehner's statement on thursday evening as he stood in front of the house republican conference on thursday night, he recited the serenity prayer. don, grarant me the serenity to accept the things that i cannot change, and close the house for business until after christmasas. there is place like an empty house for the holidays. his plan be died. >> let me be clear speaker boehner's plans are nonstarters in the senate. >> boehner appeared on friday morning and said, if this thing were easy, it would d have been done decades ago. >> i am interested in solving the major problemsms that face our country. that means house leaders, senate leaders, and the president, are going to continue to he to work together to address s those concerns. >> the president has liftedis number to 400,000 no tax hikes for anyone the knicks st that in the year. boehner wants to " tax hikes for those making mor
for political purposes. i think he sees a political victory at the bottom of the cliff. gets additional tax revenue for new programs, gets to cut the military and blame republicans for it. >> attention now turns to the senate which will reconvene on thursday. the 27th. house majority leader harry reid now has the task of trying to cobble something together that could perhaps pass the senate and also pass the house with some republican support. the expectation would be some democratic support. the white house is still calling for the threshold on tax cuts to be a quarter million. it seems unlikely republicans would sign on the that, and officially president obama is supposed to be remaining here in hawaii through the new year, it seems likely he will be heading back to washington sometimes around when the senate convenes. and in the meantime, just up in the air about what is going to happen. is it going to be a very unmerry cliff-mass? perhaps. >> i feel like we should pause and listen to the best sound in the world behind you. the waves crashing on the beach. >> pretty good. thanks. >>> dan
the tax increases and more importantly the spending cuts. the other thing you get out of that is if you allow the tax increases to go into effect a lot of those republicans think they have a better shot at tax reform next year when you instantly have a broader tax base. the numbers are sort of come complex. when the bush tax cuts went into effect fewer people had an income tax liability. this is what mitt romney was talking about last year with the 47%. if the tax rates increase you all of a sudden have more people paying income taxes and you just have a broader, higher rate to play with. next year when they come back they can get rid of some of the duck -ts and what not and lower the rates and overall have a lot more money in the system to play with, a lot more options. they think they are better shape for tax reform if they come back next year with the rates having gone up. >> reporter: and by not allowing the president to just add nah see um raise the debt level, they have leverage, don't they? >> they believe so. and the president -- it's safe to say the president realizes that, bec
tax relief. people who believe in government will remember. the people who believe in national defense and social security and medicare will remember. they will know which party is trying to destroy working democracy in order to pursue its political ends. they will know who listens to the voter, who respects the voter, and who thumbs his nose at the voter and that ladies and gentlemen of the tea party right is you. we go over this cliff and you will not have to ask for whom the bell tolls, it willing tolling for you. leading off tonight josh green and chris frats of national journal. you don't have to be as clear as i, but try, gentlemen, tonight. it looks to me like one party, guns again it's asymmetric. both parties are not screwing around, one is. is that true? >> i think both parties want to go over the cliff. >> both want to go over the cliff? who will get blamed. >> i think republicans will get blamed but i think republicans at this point fear casting a career-threatening vote to raise taxes instead of waiting four days and letting the cliff -- >> and then they can technically sa
to avoid the tax hikes and spending cuts that go into effect on the first of the year. president obama had been working with house speaker john boehner and trying to get a big deal that dealt with tax reform and deficit reduction. that fell apart and talks have largely been stalled this entire time. there was a lost pressure to get something done. we have seen some of the impacts of the fiscal cliff. consumers saying they have been more cautious with their holiday spending because of the uncertainty in washington. economists warn it could get worse and the markets could be foiled if we go over the fiscal cliff. taxes will go up for the average american by about $2,000 and could put us back into a recession. >> which nobody wants to see. kristen welker in hawaii. the president is coming back, but they haven't gotten the 48 hour notice. they are very much out there in play. thank you very much for joining us. appreciate it. when the senate returns tomorrow morning, there will be a new emphasis on members taking a larger role in the fiscal cliff negotiations that based off the current offer m
on democrats to try to counter that immediately. senate democrats saying we passed a bill that raises tax rates on incomes over $250,000, we ran on this and this is what we are offering. house republicans were saying, no, we want to negotiate something, figure it out and send it to us. someone is going to have to move. the question is, who? the president met with senate majority leader harry reid before going to hawaii and his offer was to extend the tax cuts for incomes under $250,000, extend unemployment insurance benefits, and the lady across -- and then delay the across the board automatic cuts that are supposed to start january 1. that seems to be a non starter with republicans. it's hard to see where we go from here. host: have they been talking over the christmas break at all? also, one has been the role of -- what has been the role of senator mitch mcconnell? guest: the line that comes from the speakers office all the time is the line of communication remain open. i don't know how much talking they did as the president was in hawaii spending time with his family and the speaker was bac
the tax hikes and spending cuts set to kick in next week. keith russell with more on the budget talks that ended about 45 minutes away. >> jim, the meeting started at 3:10 and ended at 4:15. the four congressional leaders left without speaking to the media. with $600 billion in tax hikes set to take effect new year's day. senior advisers said the president was set to make a small offer with the full support of reid and pelosi. nbc news has learned that a previous offered made by the president, the one that involved a tax increase for only those earning more than $400 is off the table. advisers say that was part of a bigger proposal that speaker boehner did not accept. it looks like the current proposal goes back to raising taxes on those who make more than $250,000. the proposal known as plan b didn't work. it will remain to be seen if the smaller plan will. either way the countdown to the if you year could be very costly. >> i'm hopeful that a deal will avoid the worst parts of a fiscal live cliff. >> the tax increases need to be averted, avoided. they can be. i think in the end we'l
the taxes on 98% of the american people to go up. >> richard wolf, you are in washington d.c., the capital of incompetent this morning. >> yeah. >> senator reid used a phrase that has nothing to do with being a republican or democrat at this stage, i don't think, for a lot of people. the phrase he used is the american people don't understand blah, blah, blah what's going on. the american people i would submit don't understand how these people cannot do their jobs that they're elected to. so i'm wondering what's your take on what's going on in washington? you're sitting in washington. >> right. the at least we have bipartisan agreement it's all nuts, right? everyone agrees this is ridiculous and in spite of what they say, they've been talking about it for months and years and there was ample talk about what a framework should be through the election, which wasn't that long ago. there's plenty of debate. to tie the two stories we have been talking wiabout together, there was a colin powerful doctrine that general schwartzkopf executed so well in the first gulf war. which was have an exit str
a bill before january to extend tax cuts for most americans. his remarks came as congress leaves washington without a plan to avoid the fiscal cliff. the president met with harry reid and also spoke with the house speaker. the president said he hoped any deal would include an extension of unemployment insurance and lay the groundwork for a larger deal. this is about seven minutes. >> good afternoon, everybody. for the last few weeks, i have been working with the leaders of both parties on a proposal to get our deficit under control, to avoid tax cuts -- to avoid tax hikes on the middle- class. and to make sure we can spur jobs and economic growth. a balanced proposal that cuts spending, but also ask the wealthiest americans to pay more, a proposal that will strengthen the middle class over the long haul, and our economy over the long haul. in the course of these negotiations, i offered to compromise with republicans in congress. i met them halfway on taxes and more than halfway on spending. today, i am still willing to get a comprehensive package done. i still believe that reduci
disappointed because, one, our lives are in other people's hands, and if you raise the taxes, how are we going to survive for 201 and on? >> i'm just, like i said, waiting to see what comes up and hope for the best. >> a lot of people don't know that we will automatically see a 2% did he address in our take- home tax. >> are you angry that we're even in this situation? >> not so much angry. just frustrated and, you know, just confused by it all, the lack of willingness to strike a deal should. what would you like lawmakers to give you regarding the fiscal cliff? >> compromise. i want them to come together and fix this problem. >> come together for a common goal. >> we really need a solution here. >> give back to the citizens, especially the hard working ones such as myself. >> coming to a compromise on spending. >> i think we're going to go over the cliff. >> we need to come together, because if we don't we'll fall apart. >> what, three days, four days left? >> reporter: yeah. >> we'll good over the cliff but i don't think there's going to be any long-term deal. >> can you please not raise our
't have to pay their fair share. >> we need two words, presidential leadership on not just taxing rich people, we could tax all the rich people and cut their heads off and it wouldn't help the medicare fiscal cliff. >> reporter: with time running out hopes for a grand bargain have diminished with talk now of a smaller deal that extend bush tax rate for the middle class and extends unemployment benefits but puts off major spending cuts and reform to entitlements like medicare. >> we're going to end up with a small kick the can down the road bill that creates another fiscal cliff to deal with this fiscal cliff. >> reporter: with expectations for a deal low, lawmakers are now talking about how to retroactively fix any damage done by going over the cliff in the new congress. in washington nicole collins, fox news. >>> we are, of course, going to have much more on the fiscal cliff negotiations coming up at 10:30. a republican and democratic strategist will face off here and talk about the prospects for reaching a deal. >>> a strike that could have shut down ports all over the east coast h
obama have left washington for christmas, and with no consensus on the momentous tax hikes and spending cuts set to go into effect january 1st. cnn's brianna keilar is live in hawaii where the president is vacationing. br breanna, is the president overly optimistic a last-minute deal can be reached? >> reporter: i don't know, miguel, if you could say overly optimistic. we heard him last night in the briefing room of the white house saying he's a hopeless optimist that something can still be done. but the fact is it's going to be something smaller. he's now pushing for tax cuts to be preserved for americans making $250,000 or less and pushing for unemployment benefits to be extended for a couple million americans. listen to some of what he said but also still some of the house republican opposition to this short-term plan he's pushing. >> in the next few days i've asked leaders of congress to work towards a package that prevents a tax hike on middle-class americans, protects unemployment insurance for 2 million americans, and lays the groundwork for further work on both growth and defici
with most americans facing a major tax increase in ten days. negotiations to avoid that went off the rails last night when some house republicans refused to go along with their own leadership. this evening, the president described himself as a hopeless optimist who was ready and willing to make a deal, but the speaker of the house said how we get there god only knows. we have two reports tonight. first, we'll go to major garrett at the white house. major? >> reporter: scott, tonight there is no bill written to avert the fiscal cliff. there is no road map to the drafting of that legislation. there are only hopes and aspirations-- both much smaller than the president would prefer. this is the president's own plan "b", a scaled-back bill that seeks to protect tax rates for households earning less than $250,000 and extend jobless benefits for two million americans out of work for six months or more. it's a shadow of the big deal contemplated only days ago. >> in ten days we face a deadline. in ten days, under current law, tax rates are scheduled to rise on most americans. >> even though democr
plan b. then the president urge congress to pass a bill to keep the taxes from increasing on 98% american people taxpayers. let's take a listen. >> we have a number of our members who just really didn't want to be perceived as having to raise taxes. >> i expect democrats and republicans to get back to washington and have it pass both chambers. i will immediately sign that legislation into law before january 1 of next year. >> congresswoman, with time running out, can the house come back after christmas and pass a bill, any bill to avoid the fiscal cliff? >> well, alex, i'm one of the vote counters for the democrats. i sent a letter to speaker boehner yesterday. you need to you a ban don the idea that you have to have a majority of the majority to pass legislation. in other words, speaker boehner said here's my plan. and forget you, democrats, and i'm just going to pass it with my caucus and then -- his tea party rebelled against him. what i think he should do, come to the democratic leadership, put together a coalition in the middle, moderate republicans, moderate democrats, and
they're principally opposed to tax increases that we don't have a revenue problem that we have a spending problem. to be on record as voting for a very anti-growth tax increase, i think, would imperil their house majority. >> and stf with just new years avenue, december 31st he. but he says actually the drop dead is the 27th to do the technicalities they have to do to pass by the end of the year. december 27th, that's just really a few minutes away. are they going to be able to do anything by then? >> they clearly could do something, but i think it's important for the republicans at this point to sit back and realize they've made a compromise. president obama walked away. now, the ball is in his court to actually give them something much better. if not these tax increases are going to be his, he'll own them and that's what they should want, rather than vote for something that's really going to hurt, hurt their reputation as being against tax increases. >> alisyn: but of course, the president, for whatever reason, thinks that polls and the public and his presidential win and the
the fiscal cliff, just four days left before we go over the edge triggers tax hikes, spending cuts that could send the nation back into recession. the president calling for members of the congress the back. a gang of six attending. vice president biden, harry reid, house minority leader nancy pelosi, mitch mcconnell and john boehner representing the republicans. brianna keilar is live from washington. is anybody optimistic that a deal could be done today around a table? >> i will tell you the optimism is sort of sinking. senate majority leader harry reid said he doesn't see how it can get done by january 1st. we heard from president obama before he left from his vacation that he was optimistic. logistically the white house will tell you it's possible. when you listen to what you're hearing some of these congressional leaders say, there's a lot of posturing laying blame to the other side if we do go over the cliff. take a listen. >> republicans are not about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> we are here in wa
the bush era tax cuts, which if unchanged will expire and raise taxes on all americans. starting tuesday, the average tax hike will be three to 5% per person. >> let's keep taxes exactly where they are on the first $250,000 of everybody's income. >> reporter: the president campaigned to increase taxes only on families making more than $250,000 per year. almost two weeks ago, the president offered a compromise to raise taxes only on income above 400,000, hoping that might win republican support. >> i have gone at least halfway. >> reporter: the senate is also negotiating an extension of unemployment benefits for some 2 million jobless americans, without a deal those checks will stop next week for this mother of five who has been searching for work since february. >> if congress does not extend the unemployment benefits, then i would be without a home and i really don't know what else we would do. >> reporter: the deal under discussion in the senate right now doesn't even include the biggest part of the fiscal cliff, that 1.2 trillion dollars in mandatory budget cuts, spending cuts that ar
is could you vote for a bill that extended tax cuts for $250,000 and below, extend ed unemployment insurance as the president wants to do and in some way delays some of these automatic spending cuts? could you vote for that in the short term? >> no. if you want leaders, then you have to lead. the president has been a pathetic fiscal leader. he's produced three budgets and can't get one vote for any of his budgets. boehner will be tip o'neill. obama needs to be ronald reagan. here's what i would vote for. i would vote for revenues, including tax rate hikes, even though i don't like them to save the country from becoming greece but i'm not going to set aside the $1.2 trillion in cuts. any hope of going over the fiscal cliff must start in the senate. not one democrat would support the idea that we could protect 99% of americans from a tax increase. boehner's plan b i thought made sense. to my republican colleagues, the ronald reagan model is if you get 80% of what you want, that's a good day. we have the same objective of more taxes. i like simpson-bowles. eliminate deductions, more r
about the fiscal cliff lately. how will it actually affect you? what happens to your taxes if we go off the cliff? according to the tax policy center if you're sing well no children and make $50,000 a year you will see your taxes go up by $1,500 if no deal is reached. married couple with two kids making $100,000 would see their taxes go up a whopping $5,300 per year. taxes will go up the same amount underneath the democratic and republican plans if no deal is reached. just one day after the christmas holiday, president obama is packing his bags, heading back to washington to try to forge a deal on the fiscal cliff, with just six days left to negotiate, a deal to avoid the catastrophic cliff, the president will leave hawaii tonight to try to work on a bargain between democrats and republicans. brianna keilar is traveling with the president in hawaii and joins us now. good morning, brianna. did the president cut his vacation short or was it planned all along? >> reporter: he did cut his vacation short from what was initially planned which was to go through the new year, so yes, he cut it
that prevents a tax hike on middle class americans, protects unemployment insurance for 2 million americans and lays the groundwork for further work on both growth and deficit reduction. that's an achievable goal. that can get done in ten days. >> you know, president obama today could have come out, and he could have just punched boehner right in the nose. he could have come out and kicked the guy today when he was politically down. but the president came out today with a demeanor of, hey, let's do a deal. it was a rough night at the office, but let's not give up on this. president obama has gone back to the basics. the days of the grand bargain he knows are over. but the president wants an extension on tax cuts for income below $250,000, as well as extended unemployment benefits. what's wrong with that? spending cuts can be dealt with later on in the future. and, of course, as luck would have it, there is already a bill exactly like this sitting in the united states senate. harry reid passed it back in july, and republicans refused to vote on it. boehner, why don't you vote on that? the ti
with the president's position that both sides should avoid tax hikes on middle-class americans. also, nra executive said the group would not support any new gun laws in this country. good morning this monday, december 24, 2012. we will begin this morning with your thoughts on religion and politics. as a religion influence your political decisions? also send us your tweet if you go to twitter.com -- we will begin with the sunday review section of the "the new york times" yesterday. we want to get your take on this. it does religion influence your politics? with more people saying they are unaffiliated. we want to get your take. here are some comments from facebook this morning. what are your thoughts on this december 24, 2012. it does religion influence your politics? let me show you this from "the new york times" this morning. a new poll out worldwide religion shows up that one out of six follows no religion. that is worldwide. all religions outside the united states as well. the upi story. religious identity affect voter choice. and then on the 2012 election, here is the pew forum on religion and
. and a mad scramble is on here in washington to avoid the drastic tax hikes and spending cuts that many fear will plunge the economy back into recession. president obama flies back from hawaii tonight to be ready if the senate comes back with a plan when it returns to work tomorrow. and house leaders are huddling with members on stand-by to return. senior congressional correspondent dana bash is following all of it for us. what are you hearing? >> there was a conference call of course members of the house leadership even, they're back in their districts, but there was a conference call today among those house republican leaders trying to figure out if and when the house should come back into session. two republican sources tell me they did not make a decision on this call. it's still up in the air. and a big reason for that is if anything can get done in the next six days, the ball is in the senate's court. the capitol is a ghost town. neither chamber in session. an eerie calm since the fiscal cliff only congress has the power to avert is less than one week away. from their home, senate demo
that new year's deadline when taxes would go up for all u.s. taxpayers and steep spending cuts would kick in across the board. nicole collins has the latest. >> reporter: john boehner back in washington immediately heading to the white house, which brought the president and congressional leaders together the first time since november, but it's unclear if it brought the country closer to avoiding the fiscal cliff. >> when the president calls congressional leaders to the white house, it's all political theatre or they have a deal. not that it's all political theatre. >> this is not for show but a last-ditch effort by the president to bring congressional leader together to try to get a small package at least, a small deal together before the new year. >> reporter: the president called the meeting as lawmakers pointed fingers in this high- stakes game of chicken. >> the republicans who are holding hostage the middle class in america society wealthy don't have to pay their fair share. >> we need two words: presidential leadership on not just taxing rich people. we could do that and it would no
to reach an agreement. with time running out it appears a deal would likely include a extension of tax cuts for the middle class and a cancellation of scheduled spending cuts. an aide to senate majority leader mitch mcconnell said the republican senator is eager to hear from the president. >>> new year's is still a few days away but some lawmakers are telling republicans, not to drop the ball on the looming fiscal cliff. news4 tony is live on capitol hill where a maryland lawmaker joined the effort. tony, what's the word over there? >> reporter: we've been hearing about this closed-door session president obama is having with congressional lawmakers. but here on capitol hill, they're having a rally today and you can see behind me some folks with starting to gather and this will take place as 11:30. both sides coming together to call for some kind of agreement to have before these possible tax hikes take place. that being said, i want to bring in mr. bob packer. you're a small business owner in herndon, virginia. tell me real quick, if there's no how will it affect your business? >> if tax ra
: kwame holman updates washington's spending and tax stalemate after house republicans decide not to follow the leader. >> brown: and mark shields and michael gerson analyze the week's news. >> woodruff: that's all ahead on tonight's newshour. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> bnsf railway. >> support also comes from carnegie corporation of new york, a foundation created to do what andrew carnegie called "real and permanent good." celebrating 100 years of philanthropy at carnegie.org. >> and with the ongoing support of these institutions and foundations. and friends of the newshour. and... >> this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> brown: the remaking of the obama administration's foreign policy team began today as the president nominated massachusetts senator john kerry to replace hilary clinton as secretary of state. the former presidential candidate who lost to george w. bush in 2004 got the nod after u.n. ambassador susan rice withdr
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